Saturday, May 6, 2017

Summer Vassal Tournament Pre-Action Report: Team Ramrod

Unlike Biggs, I opted to stay close to what I've been running for the last month. That's right everyone, Team Ramrod is reborn and ready to get up close and personal in the worst way possible. I'll dive into the key changes since my outing at the Stele Open, but first let's start with the list itself.

Team Ramrod 
Author: Truthiness
Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 382/400
Commander: General Madine
[ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
-  General Madine  ( 30  points)
-  Jainas Light  ( 2  points)
-  Turbolaser Reroute Circuits  ( 7  points)
83 total ship cost
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
18 total ship cost
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
-  Bright Hope  ( 2  points)
-  Toryn Farr  ( 7  points)
27 total ship cost
CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
-  Engine Techs  ( 8  points)
-  Reinforced Blast Doors  ( 5  points)
52 total ship cost
CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
-  Engine Techs  ( 8  points)
-  Reinforced Blast Doors  ( 5  points)
52 total ship cost
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
-  Admonition  ( 8  points)
-  Major Derlin  ( 7  points)
-  Ordnance Experts  ( 4  points)
-  H9 Turbolasers  ( 8  points)
-  Assault Proton Torpedoes  ( 5  points)
95 total ship cost
Tycho Celchu ( 16 points) 
Shara Bey ( 17 points) 
A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points) 

First and foremost is the replacement of the Liberty-class with Admonition. Throughout Stele, it felt like a giant weight around my neck. It had a good moment in the last game, but otherwise kept getting itself into trouble. That large base is hard to protect, even with Madine helping it out. It only survived one game, so it was hard to justify such a large points sink into something going down that often. The tooled up Admonition offers a similar amount of firepower, albeit at closer range. Normally I'm an advocate of using Mon Mothma with MC30s, but after a couple games, it became clear that where as Admo normally has to do one drive by and be done, Madine helped adapt the nav chart to make additional passes.

Even tooled out with H9s, APTs, and Ordnance Experts, Admonition still came in well under the points of the Liberty-class. That left me room to pack in a few extra. With H9s in tow, I didn't feel the need for an Intel Officer. Instead I've opted for Derlin to make the frustratingly hard to kill Admonition even harder to kill. I was also able to upgrade the list's blue dice, of which there are plenty, by grabbing Toryn Farr. I placed her on a flotilla and grabbed Bright Hope as well. It should make the A-Wings all the more frustrating in the squadron fight as well as help out the CR90Bs.

Finally, I had to find a new home for Madine. I wasn't comfortable putting him on Admonition as it is often in dangerous positions. No, I'm not putting him on a flotilla. Stop ruining the game with your anti-thematic power gaming. More importantly, however, I use my flotillas as direct support to the squadron fight. They are intended to get stuck in and use their black anti-squad batteries to support the A-Wings. The last thing I want to do is put a lifeboat in that position. The rammers are obviously a poor choice. That left me with the TRC90. Luckily it seems to be pretty low on target priority in the games I've played. It did not get killed during any of my games at Stele. So I added the Jaina's Light title to give it a little more flexibility in positioning and put Madine on that. It's able to contribute at distance, keeping Madine away from the bulk of the fighting while still throwing damage into the fight.

This list is explicitly designed to go after the flotilla spam that's pervasive in the meta. With Admo and the Rambos, I can reliably remove at least 2 flotillas very quickly, giving myself a large activation advantage. The A-Wings have consistently punched above their weight class, so I'm not really scared of squadron swarms. I also don't give up points easily. I have the speed, maneuverability, and activation count to disengage and choose my fights with near impunity. As Brendon as Stele put it, it's very good at bleeding points out of an opponent. With Liberty gone, that gets even easier. Oddly enough, I think I'm weakest against a list like the one Biggs is bringing. I can bring down a single large ship by consistently whittling it down over the course of the game and finishing it with Admo, but I have no idea if I can manage two large ships with repairing spam. I guess we'll see.


  1. What are your objectives going to be ?

    1. I'll post them after the tournament. I gotta keep a little bit of suspense.

  2. I like the list, and it is very similar one to something I'm experimenting with at the moment for Store champ season. Couple of thoughts from my experience:

    - Have you tried Cracken instead of Madine? Those ships are plenty manoeuvrable already, especiallly with a nav. Cracken makes them so much more survivable. And saves 4pts.

    - Do you need reinforced blast doors on the CRambo90s? If their job is to kill flotillas, I have never used the tech to get the hull back. And EVERYONE takes flotillas.

    - I don't know if Major Derlin is worth it. Maybe reinforced blast doors and Walex or Lando on Admonition instead?

    - I would then use spare points to boost that squadron ball. The A-wings are tough and fast, but likely to fold pretty quickly. (From personal experience with a similar build!!)

    Just my 2 cents. It's a really fun list to fly. Good luck!

    1. You cannot really appreciate the awesomeness of Madine until you see a CR90 double click at the first joint at speed 4. I frequently bank and use the Madine token as well. 3 extra clicks is unbelievable on all of these ships. That's been consistent through all iterations of this list, even with the Liberty. Madine is vastly under appreciated.

      I've got a couple games under my belt with this Admo version now, including my first one of the tournament. Derlin has been solid so far and considerably better than my previous uses of Lando. He mitigated 4 damage over the course of my last game.

      The squad ball on its own isn't much, but keep in mind the flotillas directly engage in the squad fight. It has worked very well for me.

      Finally, the RBDs on the CRambos allow them to flex. They are just as much a threat to Raiders and MC30s with RBDs as they are to flotillas. They can also go for the finishing blows on large ships. These guys have been the MVP of all iterations of this list.